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December 7, 2009

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December 7, 2009
 LIVE FROM THE LEFT COAST with Angie Coiro(12/07/2009) 
5:58
Gordon Whiting: 
Good evening one and all. We've got a "no-broadcast" version of the live-blog tonight, just a gathering place for some conversation about the future of the show.
Monday December 7, 2009 5:58 Gordon Whiting
5:59
Gordon Whiting: 
Tomorrow we will be live on KRXA Monterey-- pick up the webstream at www.krxa540.com.
Monday December 7, 2009 5:59 Gordon Whiting
6:01
[Comment From Jim in MarinJim in Marin: ] 
What happened with Green960?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:01 Jim in Marin
6:01
Gordon Whiting: 
Hello Jim in Marin.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:01 Gordon Whiting
6:03
Gordon Whiting: 
Nothing really. We are looking for stations and communities that match up with our idea of the show-- fewer commercials, deeper discussion, real facts.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:03 Gordon Whiting
6:03
Gordon Whiting: 
...and more fun!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:03 Gordon Whiting
6:04
[Comment From Jim in MarinJim in Marin: ] 
AM radio is hard to listen to.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:04 Jim in Marin
6:05
Gordon Whiting: 
Agree. But what is your beef?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:05 Gordon Whiting
6:07
[Comment From MarthaMartha: ] 
Hey GG
Monday December 7, 2009 6:07 Martha
6:07
[Comment From Jim in MarinJim in Marin: ] 
Too many commercials. But also, commercials used to be kind of fun. part of the show. Some anyway. They are not anymore.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:07 Jim in Marin
6:07
Gordon Whiting: 
Hi Martha
Monday December 7, 2009 6:07 Gordon Whiting
6:07
[Comment From MarthaMartha: ] 
btw, I'll have a page tomorrow different ways to listen to show on WRXA
Monday December 7, 2009 6:07 Martha
6:08
Gordon Whiting: 
Thank you!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:08 Gordon Whiting
6:08
Martha: 
this is gonna be A LOT easier to listen to
Monday December 7, 2009 6:08 Martha
6:08
Martha: 
:)
Monday December 7, 2009 6:08 Martha
6:09
Gordon Whiting: 
Other websites, not mentioning any names, did not have their streaming sh*t together.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:09 Gordon Whiting
6:09
Martha: 
lol
Monday December 7, 2009 6:09 Martha
6:09
Martha: 
Bleenfineplexy?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:09 Martha
6:09
Martha: 
:p
Monday December 7, 2009 6:09 Martha
6:10
Gordon Whiting: 
Sorry, that one went past me
Monday December 7, 2009 6:10 Gordon Whiting
6:10
Martha: 
Rhymes with
Monday December 7, 2009 6:10 Martha
6:10
[Comment From Jim in MarinJim in Marin: ] 
Is the show on tonight. Somewhere?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:10 Jim in Marin
6:11
Gordon Whiting: 
No jim. Just hanging on the blog for a bit. Angie might drop in; we're just doing it out of force of habit. And to see our friends.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:11 Gordon Whiting
6:12
Gordon Whiting: 
Angie, from a her days at Mother Jones Radio.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:12 Gordon Whiting
6:13
Gordon Whiting: 
Incidentally, where I spent the afternoon today. We will be broadcasting from MoJo tomorrow, from their fab SF studio.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:13 Gordon Whiting
6:14
Gordon Whiting: 
Martha-- how did you like the segment on finding ways to create and sustain liberal media, last Friday?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:14 Gordon Whiting
6:15
[Comment From AngieAngie: ] 
And here I am! A bit worse for wear but there you have me!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:15 Angie
6:15
Gordon Whiting: 
Hi there Momcat!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:15 Gordon Whiting
6:16
Martha: 
hi hi
Monday December 7, 2009 6:16 Martha
6:16
Angie: 
Hey gang! Jim, I completely agree. The heyday of really good, fun commercials is behind us.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:16 Angie
6:16
Martha: 
:) sorry I'm multi-tasking again
Monday December 7, 2009 6:16 Martha
6:16
Angie: 
Martha, thinking of you today! I'm putting together an hour for later this week on disputes on the left - boycotts, criticizing Obama, etc. Wait, lemme go dig up the two links ..
Monday December 7, 2009 6:16 Angie
6:16
Martha: 
It was good GG.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:16 Martha
6:17
Gordon Whiting: 
For you few who are gathered, A and I thought we would do the blog for a bit tonight just to do it...we'll see how it goes. Tomorrow back in primetime, same time, diff'rent channel . www.krxa540.com
Monday December 7, 2009 6:17 Gordon Whiting
6:17
Martha: 
How long?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:17 Martha
6:17
Martha: 
I wanna hang out for a while
Monday December 7, 2009 6:17 Martha
6:17
Martha: 
:D
Monday December 7, 2009 6:17 Martha
6:18
Angie: 
Here we go - Adam Bink (openleft) v. Jillian Weiss on ENDA http://www.openleft.com/diary/16366/misdirected-anger-over-enda Jillian Weiss, Bilerico http://www.bilerico.com/2009/12/enda_postponement_trumped_by_marriage_de...
Monday December 7, 2009 6:18 Angie
6:18
Gordon Whiting: 
We have no constraints.
...anymore!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:18 Gordon Whiting
6:18
Martha: 
Have Jill on!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:18 Martha
6:18
Angie: 
Yikes, that posted badly! Let me do them separately:
Monday December 7, 2009 6:18 Angie
6:18
Martha: 
She is awesome
Monday December 7, 2009 6:18 Martha
6:18
Angie: 
http://www.openleft.com/diary/16366/misdirected-anger-over-enda
Monday December 7, 2009 6:18 Angie
6:18
Martha: 
:) I like Adam too, even though he's not a fan of me
Monday December 7, 2009 6:18 Martha
6:19
Martha: 
I used to be a blogger there, Angie
Monday December 7, 2009 6:19 Martha
6:19
Angie: 
Oh, at OpenLeft or Bilerico?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:19 Angie
6:19
Martha: 
Bilerico
Monday December 7, 2009 6:19 Martha
6:19
Gordon Whiting: 
Martha-- do you have a blog address now?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:19 Gordon Whiting
6:19
Angie: 
I had no idea! I wondered if you'd be interested in joining us on the show for a segment of that hour.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:19 Angie
6:19
Angie: 
brb ...
Monday December 7, 2009 6:19 Angie
6:20
[Comment From Jim in MarinJim in Marin: ] 
What are we talking about?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:20 Jim in Marin
6:20
Martha: 
http://www.bilerico.com/contributors/marti_abernathey/
Monday December 7, 2009 6:20 Martha
6:20
Martha: 
that's the old stuff
Monday December 7, 2009 6:20 Martha
6:20
Martha: 
rb
Monday December 7, 2009 6:20 Martha
6:20
Martha: 
brb
Monday December 7, 2009 6:20 Martha
6:21
Angie: 
Jim, Martha's contributed online to some hot conversations about the left's criticism of Obama. She and I see that a bit differently.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:21 Angie
6:21
Gordon Whiting: 
Jim- The links are about the fight for equal (marriage) rights
Monday December 7, 2009 6:21 Gordon Whiting
6:22
Angie: 
Theme that comes up a lot with us. What one sector sees as holding Obama - or the Dems, or Congress, whatever - accountable is seen by another as the standard, left-wing circular firing squad.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:22 Angie
6:22
Angie: 
As usual, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:22 Angie
6:22
Gordon Whiting: 
hah! right
Monday December 7, 2009 6:22 Gordon Whiting
6:25
[Comment From disstatxdisstatx: ] 
The show is or isn't on tonight?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:25 disstatx
6:26
Gordon Whiting: 
Just the live blog tonight. Tomorrow night live on KRXA-AM Monterey, www.krxa540.com
Monday December 7, 2009 6:26 Gordon Whiting
6:26
Martha: 
:) back
Monday December 7, 2009 6:26 Martha
6:26
Angie: 
Hi, disstatx! Pardon our mess, you know what it's like when you're moving.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:26 Angie
6:27
Martha: 
for me, it's a matter more of Obama being what we make him.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:27 Martha
6:27
Angie: 
Martha, what do you think of the "Don't Ask, Don't Give" boycott?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:27 Angie
6:27
Martha: 
For the LGBT, for example...
Monday December 7, 2009 6:27 Martha
6:27
[Comment From disstatxdisstatx: ] 
OK. Are you coming back on Green960?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:27 disstatx
6:28
Martha: 
DADT is prett, but it doesn't effect most queer people
Monday December 7, 2009 6:28 Martha
6:28
Martha: 
*pretty
Monday December 7, 2009 6:28 Martha
6:28
Martha: 
as in it plays well on TV/Radio
Monday December 7, 2009 6:28 Martha
6:28
Angie: 
No, we're wrapped up there! Although John Scott is open to carrying us from our new flagship sometime down the line.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:28 Angie
6:28
Martha: 
But ENDA is MUCH more important...even than marriage.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:28 Martha
6:29
Martha: 
If you can't find a place to live or work, marriage isn't really important.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:29 Martha
6:29
Gordon Whiting: 
Martha- right, but the principle of it rolls through society. See no evil, hear no ....
Monday December 7, 2009 6:29 Gordon Whiting
6:29
Martha: 
ENDA gets hardly ANY press
Monday December 7, 2009 6:29 Martha
6:29
Angie: 
My thought, too. Its importance goes beyond its direct effect.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:29 Angie
6:29
Angie: 
brb
Monday December 7, 2009 6:29 Angie
6:29
Martha: 
Hear Rachael talking about it on TRMS?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:29 Martha
6:29
Martha: 
NO
Monday December 7, 2009 6:29 Martha
6:29
Martha: 
and she's a lesbian
Monday December 7, 2009 6:29 Martha
6:30
Gordon Whiting: 
disstatx- we won't be on Green960 in the immediate future, but things are still in discussion
Monday December 7, 2009 6:30 Gordon Whiting
6:30
Martha: 
anyhow, as far as Obama...he's said he'd sign the bill.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:30 Martha
6:30
Martha: 
ENDA
Monday December 7, 2009 6:30 Martha
6:30
Martha: 
DADT
Monday December 7, 2009 6:30 Martha
6:30
Martha: 
and other LGBT stuff.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:30 Martha
6:30
Martha: 
he's never said he'd be a civil rights leader
Monday December 7, 2009 6:30 Martha
6:31
[Comment From Jim in MarinJim in Marin: ] 
I am lost in all these acronyms
Monday December 7, 2009 6:31 Jim in Marin
6:31
[Comment From GottaLaffGottaLaff: ] 
Whassup?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:31 GottaLaff
6:31
Martha: 
ENDA=Employment Non-Discrimination Act
Monday December 7, 2009 6:31 Martha
6:32
Martha: 
DADT=Don't Ask Don't Tell
Monday December 7, 2009 6:32 Martha
6:32
Gordon Whiting: 
Hi Laffy
Monday December 7, 2009 6:32 Gordon Whiting
6:32
Martha: 
LAFFY! :)
Monday December 7, 2009 6:32 Martha
6:32
Angie: 
Yo, Laffy!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:32 Angie
6:32
[Comment From Jim in MarinJim in Marin: ] 
Thank you Martha
Monday December 7, 2009 6:32 Jim in Marin
6:33
Martha: 
I call non-profits the Non-profit Industrial complex
Monday December 7, 2009 6:33 Martha
6:33
GottaLaff: 
Hi Hi Hi!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:33 GottaLaff
6:33
Angie: 
See, I don't think it's relevant whether he "said he'd be a civil rights leader". He's pres of the whole US, of all of us. It's his job to end discrimination.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:33 Angie
6:33
Martha: 
basically they like to bitch about Obama, so they can send out fund raising pleas
Monday December 7, 2009 6:33 Martha
6:34
Martha: 
I disagree. His job is to sign legilstion
Monday December 7, 2009 6:34 Martha
6:34
Martha: 
legislation....or to veto it.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:34 Martha
6:34
Martha: 
It's the LGBT's job, and those non-profits, to get the legislation to his desk.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:34 Martha
6:34
Angie: 
6:33 Really? You find them all that consistently disingenuous? I so disagree.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:34 Angie
6:34
Martha: 
HRC? Yes
Monday December 7, 2009 6:34 Martha
6:34
Angie: 
Some of them, sure, but most are working their asses off for what they fervently believe to be true.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:34 Angie
6:35
Martha: 
NGLTF Yes
Monday December 7, 2009 6:35 Martha
6:35
Martha: 
I've been inside these circles, Angie.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:35 Martha
6:35
Martha: 
I've seen how they work. It's why I'm so damn cynical about the whole thing.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:35 Martha
6:36
Martha: 
more than anything, groups, especially HRC, are fundraisers first and foremost.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:36 Martha
6:37
[Comment From Susan OLearySusan OLeary: ] 
Hey everyone!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:37 Susan OLeary
6:37
Angie: 
Oh, okay then - I can see that. I've heard much along those lines re HRC over the years.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:37 Angie
6:37
Martha: 
I've seen Joe S. send out massive email blasts about Obama, and how we need to fight him.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:37 Martha
6:37
[Comment From disstatxdisstatx: ] 
I don't think Obama ever pretended to be anything but a centrist, and a cautious one at that
Monday December 7, 2009 6:37 disstatx
6:37
Angie: 
WATCH OUT, THE CANADIANS ARE INFILTRATING!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:37 Angie
6:37
GottaLaff: 
Hey Susan!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:37 GottaLaff
6:37
Gordon Whiting: 
Hi Suse!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:37 Gordon Whiting
6:37
Susan OLeary: 
I've been perpetrating a Canadian invasion for the past few months
Monday December 7, 2009 6:37 Susan OLeary
6:37
GottaLaff: 
Dissatx: Exactly.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:37 GottaLaff
6:37
Martha: 
Then turn around and go to a dinner at the White House and spout the party line.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:37 Martha
6:38
Susan OLeary: 
We should do a run-down of how many of our recent guests have been Canucks...
Monday December 7, 2009 6:38 Susan OLeary
6:38
Martha: 
disstatx, he is amazingly consistent with the LGBT.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:38 Martha
6:38
Martha: 
he said he'd sign the bills, and he has so far. But he won't go past what he said he'd do.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:38 Martha
6:39
Martha: 
There's talk about not including transgender people in the bill
Monday December 7, 2009 6:39 Martha
6:39
disstatx: 
I find it funny that try as they might, the wingers have not been able to make "socialist" stick. Or fascist.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:39 disstatx
6:39
Angie: 
What do you think of Adam's arguments (linked above), Martha? (and anyone else who'd like to chime in.) I think he makes solid points about respecting people's rights to fight for their own prioritized issues.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:39 Angie
6:40
Gordon Whiting: 
Susan, are you trying to embarass us Yanks?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:40 Gordon Whiting
6:40
[Comment From LinearBobLinearBob: ] 
Good Evening one and all.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:40 LinearBob
6:40
Susan OLeary: 
No, Gordon - we Canadians are far too nice for that
Monday December 7, 2009 6:40 Susan OLeary
6:41
GottaLaff: 
Hey LBob!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:41 GottaLaff
6:41
Gordon Whiting: 
Hi LBob. Good to see you the other night, even with your conservative new haircut
Monday December 7, 2009 6:41 Gordon Whiting
6:41
Martha: 
basically he repeatedly said during the campiagn he'd sign the bill
Monday December 7, 2009 6:41 Martha
6:41
Gordon Whiting: 
S-- and modest (!)
Monday December 7, 2009 6:41 Gordon Whiting
6:41
Martha: 
with or without trans people
Monday December 7, 2009 6:41 Martha
6:41
Susan OLeary: 
Hi LinearBob - I hardly recognized you Friday night with the new 'do
Monday December 7, 2009 6:41 Susan OLeary
6:41
Susan OLeary: 
Gordon - if we do say so ourselves... ;-)
Monday December 7, 2009 6:41 Susan OLeary
6:42
Angie: 
phone call -- brb
Monday December 7, 2009 6:42 Angie
6:42
Gordon Whiting: 
How can anybody not love the Canadians?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:42 Gordon Whiting
6:42
Gordon Whiting: 
All of them
Monday December 7, 2009 6:42 Gordon Whiting
6:42
Martha: 
I was on his LGBT steering and policy committee. This positiion didn't make me happy, but the campaign didn't budge. They're still consistent on that to this day.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:42 Martha
6:43
Susan OLeary: 
Maybe other Canadians?...
Monday December 7, 2009 6:43 Susan OLeary
6:43
Gordon Whiting: 
haha
Monday December 7, 2009 6:43 Gordon Whiting
6:43
Gordon Whiting: 
Martha- what did they need the committee for then?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:43 Gordon Whiting
6:45
[Comment From Jim in MarinJim in Marin: ] 
Obama has a lot on his plate and isn't getting much help from gutless Dem congress
Monday December 7, 2009 6:45 Jim in Marin
6:46
Angie: 
There is that. I must say, some individual Dems are starting to stand out as the ones with spine. It's a start!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:46 Angie
6:46
Martha: 
the problem is what is underneath him
Monday December 7, 2009 6:46 Martha
6:46
LinearBob: 
Well, I have to admit, having a lot of my hair cut off was intended to make me a little more acceptable to corporate types who might not accept that I know what I am doing in my field, even though I do not have the requisite degrees. There are echoes of the musical "Hair" rattling around in my head.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:46 LinearBob
6:47
disstatx: 
Democrats in Congress acts like they lost the election. I do not get it!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:47 disstatx
6:48
LinearBob: 
BTW -- Did anyone else happen to notice the the parallel to the Last Supper, complete with the narrow stairway to the Upper Room?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:48 LinearBob
6:48
GottaLaff: 
disstatx, some of those "Democrats" shouldn't even be in the party. That' whole 60 seat majority is meaningless. I wish people would stop saying it.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:48 GottaLaff
6:48
Angie: 
Apropos of nothing we're talking about - catch this article by Robert Cruickshank on "eMeg" (which makes me LOL) and Craiglist: http://calitics.com/diary/10651/did-emeg-try-to-screw-craig-and-his-list
Monday December 7, 2009 6:48 Angie
6:48
Gordon Whiting: 
Hahaha! LBob-- just before the resurrection
Monday December 7, 2009 6:48 Gordon Whiting
6:49
LinearBob: 
Gordon -- You took the next words right out of my fingers!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:49 LinearBob
6:49
Angie: 
I'm one of those, Laffy. I used the phrase way past its usefulness because I just couldn't grasp they wouldn't do what their numbers would allow them to do.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:49 Angie
6:49
Angie: 
BOB! The Last Supper! I don't know if that's funny or horrible!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:49 Angie
6:50
Susan OLeary: 
Can we break down who was who at the supper table?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:50 Susan OLeary
6:51
Angie: 
Was Mary Magdalen there? Because she's the only vaguely appropriate parallel for me!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:51 Angie
6:51
Gordon Whiting: 
I think we did have twelve
Monday December 7, 2009 6:51 Gordon Whiting
6:52
LinearBob: 
Angie -- I had very mixed feelings, especially since I missed most of the week and most of Friday's program, too. At least I managed to meet most of the crew. I am hopeful that your program will be resurrected, so in that manner, I think it is perhaps an interesting coincidence.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:52 LinearBob
6:52
Gordon Whiting: 
LBob-- don't cry for us Argentina. We've got some good things in the works.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:52 Gordon Whiting
6:52
Angie: 
Thirteen is the operative number, right? Jesus + 12 apostles? (And I thought all those years in Catholic school were wasted!)
Monday December 7, 2009 6:52 Angie
6:53
Angie: 
And we did have Seth at the end of the table, so .. .13!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:53 Angie
6:53
Gordon Whiting: 
13 -- our lucky number if there ever was one
Monday December 7, 2009 6:53 Gordon Whiting
6:54
Angie: 
Gang o'mine, I must away. Gordon will see you through to the end of the hour. Catch you here soon! And thanks for dropping by tonight. Oh, by the way ...
Monday December 7, 2009 6:54 Angie
6:54
Gordon Whiting: 
LBob - BUT...we are looking for stations in the Greater Bay Area (and beyond) ideas?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:54 Gordon Whiting
6:54
LinearBob: 
My conservative appearance was/is related to my not being involved as much as usual. And, no, I'm not crying. However, I am a little put off by how Mike Malloy talked about finally being live on KKGN, as if there had been some conspiracy to keep him away from the live audience.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:54 LinearBob
6:54
Angie: 
Heard from piercex! He's alive, and well, and he'll be dropping in to see us. Whew.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:54 Angie
6:54
Angie: 
And from Melody! Who's finding Seattle a bit of a challenge, but enjoying it too. She'll also be logging some time in here.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:54 Angie
6:55
Angie: 
With that ... g'night, gang, and thanks as ever for your support!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:55 Angie
6:56
Gordon Whiting: 
Good night sweet. See you tomorrow for the big switch.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:56 Gordon Whiting
6:56
LinearBob: 
Angie -- I'll be here tomorrow, although I'm not sure quite when. I have to link to AM540. I'll look for you tomorrow.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:56 LinearBob
6:57
Martha: 
Angie?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:57 Martha
6:57
Susan OLeary: 
Night Angie!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:57 Susan OLeary
6:57
Martha: 
you left yet?
Monday December 7, 2009 6:57 Martha
6:57
LinearBob: 
WOW! There were 13 of us? The parallel is even stronger than I thought!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:57 LinearBob
6:57
Martha: 
:) I guess I'll write her.
Monday December 7, 2009 6:57 Martha
6:57
Martha: 
I went and read that piece.... wow.. um. j
Monday December 7, 2009 6:57 Martha
6:58
GottaLaff: 
Re: Expectations of Obama being liberal or centrist: I had read this before I voted for Obama... which is why, at first, I was going to vote for someone else in the primary. http://www.pierretristam.com/Bobst/07/cn070607.htm
Monday December 7, 2009 6:58 GottaLaff
6:58
GottaLaff: 
Night Angie!
Monday December 7, 2009 6:58 GottaLaff
7:00
Gordon Whiting: 
OK- folks. We're going to shut down in a minute or two. This was LFTLC lite, just to maintain some continuity. We'll see you all back here tomorrow.
Monday December 7, 2009 7:00 Gordon Whiting
7:00
Martha: 
He's a politician. I shake my head a lot when people expect him to be something other than that.
Monday December 7, 2009 7:00 Martha
7:00
Martha: 
kk, later GG. I'm off to write an email to Angie.
Monday December 7, 2009 7:00 Martha
7:00
LinearBob: 
Laffy -- When we had our Primary (in California) I voted for my choice, Dennis Kucinich, even though I was pretty sure he would not win. I wanted to register a vote for the most ethical and honest politician I know of.
Monday December 7, 2009 7:00 LinearBob
7:00
GottaLaff: 
Martha, I agree. He's a charismatic one
Monday December 7, 2009 7:00 GottaLaff
7:01
Martha: 
LB, I would have supported DK, but he was too much like Carter.
Monday December 7, 2009 7:01 Martha
7:01
Gordon Whiting: 
Thanks for stopping by everyone. Have a good night!
Monday December 7, 2009 7:01 Gordon Whiting
7:01
GottaLaff: 
LBob, I was going to vote for Edwards at that point (I'm in CA too)... then thought the better of it, and then he dropped out anyway. Kucinich was just not going to happen, so I resisted.
Monday December 7, 2009 7:01 GottaLaff
7:01
GottaLaff: 
Bye Gordon!
Monday December 7, 2009 7:01 GottaLaff
7:01
Susan OLeary: 
Hey everyone - I really am off to Canada tomorrow. I have so enjoyed getting to know you all, and I will check in with you on the blog from Vancouver.
Monday December 7, 2009 7:01 Susan OLeary
7:01
GottaLaff: 
I'll miss you Susan... so much
Monday December 7, 2009 7:01 GottaLaff
7:02
Martha: 
Susan, you so rock, thank you for all you've done.
Monday December 7, 2009 7:02 Martha
7:02
LinearBob: 
Gordon -- I guess we will all be back here tomorrow at 1800 (aka 6 pm).
Monday December 7, 2009 7:02 LinearBob
7:02
Gordon Whiting: 
You got it
Monday December 7, 2009 7:02 Gordon Whiting
7:02
Susan OLeary: 
thanks laffy, martha!
Monday December 7, 2009 7:02 Susan OLeary
7:02
GottaLaff: 
Mwah!
Monday December 7, 2009 7:02 GottaLaff
7:03
GottaLaff: 
Night all. See you Friday! At the new house!
Monday December 7, 2009 7:03 GottaLaff
7:03
Gordon Whiting: 
Susan is the cat's meow. And from us...that is the highest praise.
Monday December 7, 2009 7:03 Gordon Whiting
7:03